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dev chat meetings suspended; request for comments
A few months ago, I started scheduling regular dev chat meetings in an effort to increase awareness of our development efforts and discuss how to deal with common issues we all face in the course of development.
I think a lot of good has come from these chats. However, over the last six weeks or so, participation has fallen way off, and I'm no longer convinced they can continue to serve a useful purpose in their current form.
If it's a scheduling issue, I'm happy to move it around to get more attendance. I've asked before for alternative times and gotten no responses. I had hoped that by scheduling it to occur at the same time every couple of weeks, that would allow people to plan ahead to arrange their availability to attend. If it would work better to poll everyone for a preferred time for each meeting, I can try that for a while.
If it's not a scheduling issue, I'd like to know why more people aren't showing up to participate. It was made clear to me in the discussion here that there was definitely a perceived need for something like this three months ago. Has that need disappeared? Should we be trying to meet it in a different way?
Basically I want to do whatever I can to help facilitate communication in the development community, but I want to make sure my efforts are having the desired effect. Please comment if you have any thoughts on the matter. Thanks.
I think a lot of good has come from these chats. However, over the last six weeks or so, participation has fallen way off, and I'm no longer convinced they can continue to serve a useful purpose in their current form.
If it's a scheduling issue, I'm happy to move it around to get more attendance. I've asked before for alternative times and gotten no responses. I had hoped that by scheduling it to occur at the same time every couple of weeks, that would allow people to plan ahead to arrange their availability to attend. If it would work better to poll everyone for a preferred time for each meeting, I can try that for a while.
If it's not a scheduling issue, I'd like to know why more people aren't showing up to participate. It was made clear to me in the discussion here that there was definitely a perceived need for something like this three months ago. Has that need disappeared? Should we be trying to meet it in a different way?
Basically I want to do whatever I can to help facilitate communication in the development community, but I want to make sure my efforts are having the desired effect. Please comment if you have any thoughts on the matter. Thanks.
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I would really like to get back into DW dev, though I am also trying to manage limited spoons and earn enough money to get through Christmas right now...
I really like the idea of the dev meetings and have been lurking in -dev for a couple (and read through the logs of a couple more). I think the time you scheduled was Saturday afternoon-ish for me (in GMT), which I could probably manage for an hour or so if I prioritised it. But right now I'm struggling to prioritise things, which is about me rather than DW...
So I'm not sure I am really able to usefully contribute much, but I'll be interested to see what other people say.
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FWIW we had similar problems with Growstuff IRC meetings. We used to hold them weekly at a time that rotated by 6 hours each week, i.e. at 0, 6, 12, and 18 hours UTC. That way people could always find one that was in their timezone. We announced each meeting on our mailing list so people would know the times. However, numbers dropped off rapidly after a little while, and we ended up stopping doing them.
I'm tracking this thread and would be interested to see what people say and how you end up working this out.
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- the executive function required to work out what time the thing is
- the executive funtion required to remember the thing is happening
- the executive function required to be in -dev given the extent to which my server is currently a crashy pile of sand and needs some more DDoS-proofing
I'm sorry about lack of participation on my part. I recognise that the problems involved are preeeeeetty much entirely my problem and there isn't anything you can do about them.
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Now circumstances have changed and I don't have as much time or energy as I used to so some DW support and wikiing elsewhere work better for me.
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I think it was a good idea, I think you have a critical mass problem, and I don't know how to fix that.
EDIT: I also don't like IRC much, but that's a separate issue and conversations on comm clearly weren't generating much participation either.
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I seem to have been able to make to most of the Saturday-noon ones, but there consistently ended up being not a lot of people about, and I am far from confident enough to take an Active Position discussing stuff. (not senior enough, not familiar enough with the codebase beyond the small corners i've touched, possible impostor syndrome...)
Not sure i've seen an active chat except in the post facto logs, so...idunno. *flails indecisively*
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