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Mark Smith ([staff profile] mark) wrote in [site community profile] dw_dev2013-03-04 01:08 pm
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A little organization and updates!

Hi all!

I've been doing some poking around and realized that I don't have a good overall state-of-the-DW-development. I have some vague ideas about what some people are working on and interested in, but I wanted to make those vague ideas become a bit less vague. :)

If you have a few minutes, I'd appreciate you taking the time to answer a couple of quick questions here!

  1. Are you actively working on a bug (or several) right now? Which ones?
  2. What are you interested in working on -- broadly or narrowly, what do you want to do? (Or are you just open for suggestions?)
  3. Is there anything explicitly blocking you from doing what you want? (Knowledge, someone has the bug claimed for a year, need a hand with something, etc.)
  4. Free form! Anything you want to say or ask. :)

I also want us to have another development focused chat like we did some months ago. I think the last one I did was well timed for US developers but bad for EU, so I'll go the other way this time. I'm thinking something like 8AM Pacific which is midnight for [personal profile] fu and 4PM UTC on a Sunday. Reasonable?

Thanks!

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[personal profile] shadowspar 2013-03-07 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
  1. Not at the moment! I'm (hopefully) just at the point of squaring away some stuff in my personal life that was eating a lot of my time.
  2. Long-term, I'm thinking about pulling together some kind of "build" system that'll turn a bare VM into a working Dreamwidth install. I'm also interested in looking at testing and what the best direction to go with that might be. For starters, though, I just want to pull my dev-env back together and knock off some straightforward bugs while I get a feel for the codebase. ^_^;
  3. Honestly, at this point it all pivots on me managing to stake out a place in my schedule in the face of the competing demands for my time. =/
  4. "The code done yesterday should be as good as you could make it yesterday. The fact that you know more today, and are more capable today, is good news about today, not bad news about yesterday." :Ron Jeffries
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[staff profile] mark 2013-03-09 12:44 am (UTC)(link)
I hope you get stuff set up and get some time -- always good to have more people hacking on DW. :)

The bare-VM-to-DW is getting a bit easier since I did the extlib work. This lets you use cpanm to install the Perl packages you need to a local directory. You may even be able to run DW completely out of a user's directory now. The only piece I haven't messed with is the Apache; you could make a build script and then set up the configs locally and everything else should run.

Oh, and MySQL. You'd either need a system database or run a locally installed MySQL under the user's account. Of course I'm not sure if you want to set something up to install in a user's directory on a shared VM, or if you want a "configure the whole VM" kind of thing. Either way would be an interesting project.

Yessssssssss -- time is hard. Well, whatever you get for DW is awesome, and whatever you don't we will be jealous of! ;)

That's a good quote, although it's difficult not to look at old code and go "I SHOULD REWRITE IT". At least, it's a difficult problem for me, I really enjoy going back and fixing old code of mine...
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[staff profile] denise 2013-03-11 07:27 am (UTC)(link)
for the record: we don't have a lot of bugs open for making the install process easier, mostly because i don't do installs and mark has done it so many times he can do it in his sleep, but if you spot anything that should be changed to make the process easier please file bugs for it. it's not one of those priorities that springs to my mind often (see also: i don't do installs) but any work we can do to make the process better is a good thing.

i saw you asking in irc scrollback earlier today, meanwhile, and yes, we would love better install instructions (for a standalone setup, i mean, not for dreamhack type stuff) in the wiki. if you don't have an account already, talk to [personal profile] foxfirefey (and i think a few other people can do it too but i'm blanking on names) -- they'll get you hooked up.
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[personal profile] shadowspar 2013-03-11 11:16 am (UTC)(link)
Absolutely; will do! Actually, that's kinda how 4933 - Disused docbook docs still present came about -- I mentioned encountering the old docs in the dev channel, and Dre was like "OMG we still have those? O_o Can you please file a bug for that?"

Too, I've been tuning up minor discrepancies in the Scratch Installation wiki doc as I find them, but I'm happy to take that page and related ones and reshape them a bit more dramatically as I come to grok the process of installing and running the code a bit more completely. =)
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[staff profile] denise 2013-03-11 11:18 am (UTC)(link)
there is a special seat reserved in valhalla for those warriors who valiantly improve the wiki documentation.
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